Maps
Best of 5
* Grand final
1. Chaos removed Inferno
2. Triumph removed Vertigo
3. Chaos picked Train
4. Triumph picked Mirage
5. Chaos picked Overpass
6. Triumph picked Nuke
7. Dust2 was left over
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Match stats
Side
Both
TerroristT
Counter-TerroristCT
| K-D | +/- | ADR | KAST | Rating | |
Kaleb 'moose' Jayne
moose
|
47-51 | -4 | 83.3 | 66.7% | 1.02 |
Alan 'Shakezullah' Hardeman
Shakezullah
|
45-50 | -5 | 75.1 | 58.0% | 0.90 |
|
Ryan 'ryann' Welsh
ryann
|
38-54 | -16 | 69.7 | 66.7% | 0.86 |
|
Paytyn 'junior' Johnson
junior
|
42-50 | -8 | 63.3 | 62.3% | 0.86 |
|
Erik 'penny' Penny
penny
|
47-54 | -7 | 67.3 | 55.1% | 0.78 |
| K-D | +/- | ADR | KAST | Rating | |
|
Erick 'Xeppaa' Bach
Xeppaa
|
61-42 | +19 | 86.1 | 75.4% | 1.34 |
|
Anthony 'vanity' Malaspina
vanity
|
51-38 | +13 | 81.5 | 75.4% | 1.29 |
Edgar 'MarKE' Maldonado
MarKE
|
60-45 | +15 | 87.3 | 72.5% | 1.29 |
|
Jonathan 'Jonji' Carey
Jonji
|
49-46 | +3 | 77.5 | 76.8% | 1.21 |
|
Nathan 'leaf' Orf
leaf
|
37-50 | -13 | 66.5 | 75.4% | 0.92 |
| K-D | +/- | ADR | KAST | Rating | |
|
Erik 'penny' Penny
penny
|
23-18 | +5 | 102.3 | 57.1% | 1.15 |
|
Kaleb 'moose' Jayne
moose
|
14-16 | -2 | 76.3 | 52.4% | 0.85 |
|
Paytyn 'junior' Johnson
junior
|
11-18 | -7 | 71.0 | 47.6% | 0.71 |
|
Alan 'Shakezullah' Hardeman
Shakezullah
|
10-16 | -6 | 61.3 | 38.1% | 0.61 |
|
Ryan 'ryann' Welsh
ryann
|
6-19 | -13 | 44.2 | 52.4% | 0.45 |
| K-D | +/- | ADR | KAST | Rating | |
|
Jonathan 'Jonji' Carey
Jonji
|
21-11 | +10 | 106.1 | 81.0% | 1.76 |
|
Anthony 'vanity' Malaspina
vanity
|
23-12 | +11 | 110.5 | 85.7% | 1.70 |
|
Erick 'Xeppaa' Bach
Xeppaa
|
18-12 | +6 | 71.2 | 76.2% | 1.31 |
|
Edgar 'MarKE' Maldonado
MarKE
|
16-15 | +1 | 80.7 | 76.2% | 1.23 |
|
Nathan 'leaf' Orf
leaf
|
9-14 | -5 | 66.1 | 71.4% | 0.93 |
| K-D | +/- | ADR | KAST | Rating | |
|
Ryan 'ryann' Welsh
ryann
|
24-17 | +7 | 102.8 | 77.8% | 1.47 |
|
Alan 'Shakezullah' Hardeman
Shakezullah
|
23-17 | +6 | 91.1 | 70.4% | 1.30 |
|
Paytyn 'junior' Johnson
junior
|
18-15 | +3 | 57.4 | 70.4% | 1.03 |
|
Kaleb 'moose' Jayne
moose
|
14-18 | -4 | 66.5 | 74.1% | 0.95 |
|
Erik 'penny' Penny
penny
|
13-18 | -5 | 50.3 | 55.6% | 0.77 |
| K-D | +/- | ADR | KAST | Rating | |
|
Erick 'Xeppaa' Bach
Xeppaa
|
21-18 | +3 | 88.7 | 74.1% | 1.23 |
|
Anthony 'vanity' Malaspina
vanity
|
14-17 | -3 | 68.9 | 74.1% | 0.99 |
|
Edgar 'MarKE' Maldonado
MarKE
|
21-20 | +1 | 68.0 | 63.0% | 0.98 |
|
Jonathan 'Jonji' Carey
Jonji
|
15-18 | -3 | 64.3 | 63.0% | 0.93 |
|
Nathan 'leaf' Orf
leaf
|
14-20 | -6 | 56.5 | 70.4% | 0.76 |
| K-D | +/- | ADR | KAST | Rating | |
|
Kaleb 'moose' Jayne
moose
|
19-17 | +2 | 112.0 | 71.4% | 1.32 |
|
Paytyn 'junior' Johnson
junior
|
13-17 | -4 | 63.2 | 66.7% | 0.79 |
|
Alan 'Shakezullah' Hardeman
Shakezullah
|
12-17 | -5 | 68.3 | 61.9% | 0.73 |
|
Ryan 'ryann' Welsh
ryann
|
8-18 | -10 | 52.6 | 66.7% | 0.56 |
|
Erik 'penny' Penny
penny
|
11-18 | -7 | 54.1 | 52.4% | 0.47 |
| K-D | +/- | ADR | KAST | Rating | |
|
Edgar 'MarKE' Maldonado
MarKE
|
23-10 | +13 | 118.9 | 81.0% | 1.81 |
|
Erick 'Xeppaa' Bach
Xeppaa
|
22-12 | +10 | 97.8 | 76.2% | 1.52 |
|
Anthony 'vanity' Malaspina
vanity
|
14-9 | +5 | 68.7 | 66.7% | 1.30 |
|
Nathan 'leaf' Orf
leaf
|
14-16 | -2 | 79.6 | 85.7% | 1.15 |
|
Jonathan 'Jonji' Carey
Jonji
|
13-17 | -4 | 65.8 | 90.5% | 1.04 |
Betting
Regional bettingLineups
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ryann
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moose
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Shakezullah
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junior
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penny
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junior
| Highlighted stats | ||
|---|---|---|
| (Past 3 months) | ||
| 1.14 | Rating 2.0 | 1.17 |
| 0.72 | Kills per roundKPR | 0.78 |
| 0.60 | Deaths per roundDPR | 0.67 |
| 72.3% | KAST | 75.6% |
| 1.12 | Impact | 1.14 |
| 74.8 | Average damage per roundADR | 80.2 |
| Full comparison | ||
Xeppaa
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MarKE
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vanity
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Jonji
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Xeppaa
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leaf
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Map statsMatch lineup core winrate, past 3 months, min. 3 maps played
Past matches
Head to head
| 15/9 20 | |
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ESL Pro League Season 12 North America |
mrg
Mirage
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7 - 16 | ||
| 15/9 20 | |
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ESL Pro League Season 12 North America |
nuke
Nuke
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6 - 16 | ||
| 15/9 20 | |
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ESL Pro League Season 12 North America |
inf
Inferno
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16 - 3 | ||
| 8/8 20 | |
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DreamHack Open Summer 2020 North America |
nuke
Nuke
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2 - 16 | ||
| 8/8 20 | |
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DreamHack Open Summer 2020 North America |
mrg
Mirage
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6 - 16 |
#1
?|?
?YankeeM
?|??YankeeMLet's hope for Chaos.
10 replies
#35
?|?
?JanioMachado
?|??JanioMachadoNT ... hope for Triumph
8 replies
#61
?VulcunStoleMyD
steel?|?
?VulcunStoleMyDnt ez for CHAOS AND TRIUMPH
6 replies
#121
?|?
?ChaosEC
?|??ChaosECEz 4 Chaos best esport club
5 replies
#126
?|?
?Pr1ceqq
?|??Pr1ceqqcheat club btw
4 replies
#130
?VulcunStoleMyD
steel?|?
?VulcunStoleMyDwho's talking? S1mple esl banned.
JONJI NOT EVEN SUSPECTED, SHAME, SAD!
3 replies
#131
?|?
?Pr1ceqq
?|??Pr1ceqqmb proofs about s1mple ban?
2 replies
#168
?Milk_is_for_Real
ecl1pse?|?
?Milk_is_for_RealFURIA junior wins easy
#229
?|?
?i_play_b_rotation
?|??i_play_b_rotation1.6 ban right?
#100
?dupreeh_deserves_no1
dupreeh?|?
?dupreeh_deserves_no1OMEGALUL YES
#117
?pernatos
fl0m?|?
?pernatosWell. I also think that Chaos will win, it is difficult to explain, but it is true
#2
?|?
?Uexo
?|??Uexoez for New England Whalers
#3
?|?
?Tari)))
?|??Tari)))ez chaos
#4
?|?
?XD___
?|??XD___ez4ibuypower
#5
?|?
?Keyed_
?|??Keyed_Liquid 15-0 against Chaos, then Chaos pull to OT in the second half, then Liquid choke 19-15, classic NA.
1 reply
#120
?|?
?blameF_biggest_fan
?|??blameF_biggest_fanNo liquid for you
#6
?mat1arg
?mat1argez4MarKE
2 replies
#29
?edemongo
Stewie2K?|?
?edemongo+1
#68
?|?
?YungDaggerDick!
?|??YungDaggerDick!+1
#7
?|?
?Zereeni
?|??Zereeniez4nitr0
#8
?|?
?Lukem_Fan
?|??Lukem_FanIf this is not Liquid vs EG, NA cs would be officially dead
10 replies
#9
?|?
?cristiaan
?|??cristiaanok
#32
?David_Beckham
?David_Beckhamits dead as you said
#41
?|?
?firtlast
?|??firtlastit is pretty dead, yeah
anyone who says otherwise is a doodoo head
#43
?sycr0nE
tarik?|?
?sycr0nENA CS isnt dead?
If lower tier teams dont perform well, you say NA cs is dead.
If lower tier teams do perform well against top-tier teams like Liquid or EG, you say NA cs is dead.
Toxic af
1 reply
#63
?|?
?stay_drinkwaterandstuff_my_guy
?|??stay_drinkwaterandstuff_my_guy>top tier
>liquid, EG
hmmmmm.... hmmmm... hmm
#53
?Phil_1337
gas?|?
?Phil_1337Xd
#54
?|?
?i_play_b_rotation
?|??i_play_b_rotationWell have i got news for u
#82
?|?
?KingDavi
?|??KingDaviRip
#107
?|?
?MorrisonMan
?|??MorrisonManlmao
#249
?|?
?HEIDASHUAi
?|??HEIDASHUAiLMAO
#11
?|?
?Stee1_29
?|??Stee1_29Liquid VS EG, 100%
7 replies
#33
?David_Beckham
?David_Beckham100% kkkkk
#81
?|?
?KingDavi
?|??KingDaviI also thought the same kekw
#101
?dupreeh_deserves_no1
dupreeh?|?
?dupreeh_deserves_no1kkkkkkkk nt
#108
?|?
?MorrisonMan
?|??MorrisonMankkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
#115
?Miki2K
misutaaa?|?
?Miki2K100%
#135
?Efon
DEVIL?|?
?Efonkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
#250
?|?
?HEIDASHUAi
?|??HEIDASHUAiLUL
#28
?bagin__
VAATI?|?
?bagin__lets not hope for liquid vs **
#30
?|?
?grenadeboom_
?|??grenadeboom_EZ 4 EG 999%
1 reply
#124
?GLA1VE_4_MAJORS_ELIGE_0_MAJOR
?GLA1VE_4_MAJORS_ELIGE_0_MAJORyeah, 3-4
#31
?german_cheaters
MyLastChance?|?
?german_cheaters3-0 eg
#34
?LilTed
Stewie2K?|?
?LilTedEG need to win this so liquid can play iem global challenge so they cant lose there
#36
?|?
?cristiaan
?|??cristiaansee junior vs cerq will be very beautiful
#37
?|?
?bestest_team
?|??bestest_team3-2 Triumph
#38
?|?
?CEO_OF_BETTORS
?|??CEO_OF_BETTORSWhy so ez 4 LEAF
#39
?Predic123
?Predic123EG 3-0 EZ
1 reply
#111
?resistance_
?resistance_nt
#40
?lilalb
?lilalbtriumph vs chaos final
2 replies
#80
?|?
?KingDavi
?|??KingDaviPogchamp prediction
1 reply
#123
?lilalb
?lilalbpog
#42
?wmzgod
Xyp9x?|?
?wmzgodEG 3-0
16-0
16-0
16-0
1 reply
#79
?|?
?KingDavi
?|??KingDaviKekw
#44
?I_LOVE_DE_VERTIGO
Vertigo?|?
?I_LOVE_DE_VERTIGOtriumph -overpass
chaos -vertigo
triumph +inferno (triumph 16-10)
chaos +train (chaos 16-12)
triump +nuke (chaos 16-13)
chaos +mirage (chaos 16-10)
decider dust2
#45
?Kaantas29
imoRR?|?
?Kaantas29Omg its looking xeppa vs juni
#46
?deelorian
poizon?|?
?deelorianbest na teams in final
good to see
#47
?wmzgod
Xyp9x?|?
?wmzgodLMFAO
#48
?|?
?BEST_BETTOR_EZZ
?|??BEST_BETTOR_EZZez for Chaos
#49
?DethCatala
?DethCatalaA final i wanna see
#50
?Matchfix
ZywOo?|?
?Matchfix2 best NA teams right here
#51
?|?
?LOSING_MONEY_IS_FUN
?|??LOSING_MONEY_IS_FUNThe finals we needed but don't deserve. Hope Triumph take it home, would be HUGE for them. I believe in ya Junior
#52
?bNavi_Fan
s1mple?|?
?bNavi_FanShakezullah baby
#55
?VironP
?VironPLmao Triumph vs Chaos is gonna be boring unless they both turn on. Would rather preferred EG vs Liquid
1 reply
#72
?|?
?aHooligan
?|??aHooliganty for EG and TL for throwing for me. ez skins ez life.
#56
?BUFF_KUNKKA_PLS
?BUFF_KUNKKA_PLSeasy for chaos
#57
?VulcunStoleMyD
steel?|?
?VulcunStoleMyDNICE MAJOR FINAL
#58
?OGTrey079
Aleksib?|?
?OGTrey079markE to navi incoming
1 reply
#59
?|?
?stay_drinkwaterandstuff_my_guy
?|??stay_drinkwaterandstuff_my_guylol
#60
?|?
?WhatOta
?|??WhatOtaEZ FOR CHAOS!!! MAD BETTORS CRYING I LOVE IT!!
#62
?bagin__
VAATI?|?
?bagin__the best possible final in this tournament.
#64
?DES7
?DES7This is the best final when I've ever seen in my life.
#65
?|?
?notawaffle
?|??notawaffleformer rugratz already playing in a final of a T1 tournament wow
#66
?DELUSIONAL_EliGE_FAN
EliGE?|?
?DELUSIONAL_EliGE_FANwhat a final LMAO
#67
?aligholiz77
?aligholiz77This Final will be more exciting and unpredictable than the previous 2 major finals you heard it here first.
#69
?cingkukdodol
?cingkukdodolRecent match liquid beat chaos 0-2,eg beat triump 0-2
NA logic
#70
?|?
?YungDaggerDick!
?|??YungDaggerDick!This is our moment??
#71
?|?
?Frotha
?|??FrothaEZ for Junior
#73
?VssVK
f0rest?|?
?VssVKa what? excuse me what is this BS?
#74
?Partikip
?PartikipWhat a great final...2 young teams with great skill
#75
?XDrive19
?XDrive19EU final:POG
NA final:Omegalul
EU is doing better than NA in pretty much everything meaningful, NA is better at electing retarded presidents like Trump and Biden tho, they are the best.
#76
?regerngr
?regerngrChaos`s Overpass was very good actually.. Inferno is a free map for Triumph... Nuke is 50/50, i dont know how EG lost that one.
1 reply
#78
?ikic
?ikicthey didnt give a fck... taric was laughing while losing 8 of 9 ct rounds...
#77
?I_Made_Cheat_4_Forsaken
NEOFRAG?|?
?I_Made_Cheat_4_ForsakenFluke vs Fluke letsgooooo what a final
#83
?|?
?WaSTe_D
?|??WaSTe_DThis is fucking epic ngl
I'm ready for some clownfiesta
#84
?RealOneTap
ScreaM?|?
?RealOneTaptriumph vs chaos
0 - 3
map pick
triumph ban vertigo
chaos ban dust 2
triumph pick inferno ( chaos ein )
chaos pick nuke ( chaos win )
triumph pick overpass ( chaos win )
chaos pick mirage
train was left
#85
?|?
?matzyr
?|??matzyrbullshit
#86
?WMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWM
TheEntireNationOfKenya?|?
?WMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMshit final
#87
?|?
?wyv0
?|??wyv0eZ for shakezullah and penny
#88
?kratix
s1mple?|?
?kratixSnore fest finals fucking trash
#89
?ayellowline
sh1ro?|?
?ayellowlineGo Triumph! Bye cheaterz.
#90
?|?
?luisleg99
?|??luisleg99Ez4MarkE The chingon Mexican beast>s0mple
1 reply
#93
?|?
?cristiaan
?|??cristiaanXDDDD
#91
?|?
?de_viLL
?|??de_viLLNA cs is fucking dead
#92
?|?
?cristiaan
?|??cristiaanTriumph vs Chaos????, really na cs is dead
#94
?VonMornings
Xyp9x?|?
?VonMorningsThe absolute state of NA summed up in one match LMAO
#95
?DELUSIONAL_GENG_FAN
arT?|?
?DELUSIONAL_GENG_FANResidentSleeper
#96
?mmmmmmajestic
NiKo?|?
?mmmmmmajesticAHAHAHAHAHAHA SAYS ENOUGH ABOUT NA CS
#97
?chikinnn
?chikinnnliquid vs EG? ofc not
#98
?NeymarJR10
f0rest?|?
?NeymarJR10the most NA final
#99
?|?
?Very_nice_danish_guy
?|??Very_nice_danish_guyNice grand final
#102
?|?
?ZyvvOo
?|??ZyvvOoESEA MDL Grand Final
#103
?|?
?HikZ
?|??HikZiem? more like esea mdl
#104
?Predic123
?Predic123Chaos wins
#105
?Dosia_1_major_S0mple_0_major
Dosia?|?
?Dosia_1_major_S0mple_0_majorFinal who vs who instead liquid vs eg
Cs in 2020 lmao
#106
?|?
?Chechnya95
?|??Chechnya95go go chaos
1 reply
#139
?Hamz95
?Hamz95h1o muh vu sa vash?
#109
?|?
?somecunt
?|??somecuntxDDDDD
#110
?|?
?simple_0_major
?|??simple_0_majorNice final right there, NA
#112
?schlafanzyk
SpawN?|?
?schlafanzykthis final is almost as good as the election.. CANT WAIT TO SEE WHO WINS
#113
?|?
?YungPan666
?|??YungPan666Wasted spot to IEM Global Challenge
#114
?tooEZforBIG
?tooEZforBIGIf anyone of these 2 teams bans Vertigo they are beyond retarded. Both dont play it so -> wasted Ban
That's all i am gonna say
#116
?ZeroAndLowelfan
loWel?|?
?ZeroAndLowelfanjonji 50 bomb on map 1 with overtime incoming
#118
?|?
?killermacka
?|??killermackaez for cheaters
#119
?d3monk1ng
AmaNEk?|?
?d3monk1ngIEM Global Challenge KEKW.
FURIA, TRIUMPH/CHAOS, EG, HEROIC. SHIT TEAMS in IEM GLOBAL CHALLENGE. I hope they don't organize this tournament. Imagine TRIUMPH in GLOBAL CHALLENGE KEKW.
4 replies
#129
?MrAycan
RpK?|?
?MrAycanbetter than other fluke NA teams
#137
?|?
?stay_drinkwaterandstuff_my_guy
?|??stay_drinkwaterandstuff_my_guyliquid and EG would just lose to everyone
chaos would make a couple of upsets and triumph would suck tbh
2 replies
#149
?|?
?The Jagermeister :D
?|??The Jagermeister :D"chaos would make a couple of upsets"
i hope this is sarcasm
1 reply
#150
?|?
?stay_drinkwaterandstuff_my_guy
?|??stay_drinkwaterandstuff_my_guyi mean maybe on a map or two over some bo3s. the lower tiered NA teams usually do something other than flatline and get 16-3'd.
#122
?VironP
?VironPI mean Leaf literally is a community convicted cheater, so he'll make sure Chaos takes this
2 replies
#133
?|?
?ConAction
?|??ConActionlmao xd
#157
?AngelReaper
?AngelReaperLeaf is a rockstar like flusha
#125
?Partikip
?PartikipIf Chaos wins, the org will back down from selling the team in quiting cs
1 reply
#151
?ZeroAndLowelfan
loWel?|?
?ZeroAndLowelfanI really hope so lmao
#127
?|?
?CEO_OF_BETTORS
?|??CEO_OF_BETTORSFINALLY NO BORING EG, LULQUID AND FURIA
POGGERS
#128
?MrAycan
RpK?|?
?MrAycanfinally no fluke teams in NA final
#132
?panico1910
broky?|?
?panico1910final super omegalul
NA quality
#134
?|?
?DELUSIONAL_FURIA_FAN
?|??DELUSIONAL_FURIA_FANlol max 20k viewers for this final.
1 reply
#167
?|?
?elementcsgo
?|??elementcsgohahahahahaha this is real bro
#136
?colbert^
Lobanjica?|?
?colbert^1junior wins 2-1
9 replies
#138
?|?
?stay_drinkwaterandstuff_my_guy
?|??stay_drinkwaterandstuff_my_guybo5
8 replies
#140
?colbert^
Lobanjica?|?
?colbert^fuck, 3-1 sorry. Actually being totally honest I think chaos have a better map pool but I'm gonna be rooting for triumph anyways for 1junior's last stand
7 replies
#141
?|?
?stay_drinkwaterandstuff_my_guy
?|??stay_drinkwaterandstuff_my_guywhere does the 1 come from
6 replies
#142
?colbert^
Lobanjica?|?
?colbert^Triumph could win nuke or inferno against chaos, maybe dust2 we'll see
5 replies
#143
?colbert^
Lobanjica?|?
?colbert^they are bound to win one of those maps at least
4 replies
#144
?|?
?stay_drinkwaterandstuff_my_guy
?|??stay_drinkwaterandstuff_my_guyno, the 1 before junior's nickname. lol
3 replies
#145
?colbert^
Lobanjica?|?
?colbert^It's a trend on NA ESEA. There was 1grim, 1leaf, 1penny, 1junior, 1curry and now people just do it cause it sounds kinda cool and it works if your name has already been taken.
2 replies
#146
?|?
?stay_drinkwaterandstuff_my_guy
?|??stay_drinkwaterandstuff_my_guy1stay_drinkwaterandstuff_my_guy
1 reply
#147
?colbert^
Lobanjica?|?
?colbert^nice name yes
#148
?aplasa
adreN?|?
?aplasaNA Logic :
#152
?|?
?stay_drinkwaterandstuff_my_guy
?|??stay_drinkwaterandstuff_my_guydelayed another hour noooooooooooooooo
#153
?|?
?R1PP3RZ
?|??R1PP3RZ2 star final...
But imo more enjoyable than Liquid vs EG full strats game
Xeppa crazyness vs Junior amazing AWP, I'll take that
#154
?|?
?xxtimxx
?|??xxtimxxlet's go Junior!
#155
?fansc
?fansc2.24 chaos moneyline on vulkan rn wtf? Has to be a mistake...
#156
?|?
?stay_drinkwaterandstuff_my_guy
?|??stay_drinkwaterandstuff_my_guytrain/mirage/overpass/??/??
triumph somehow managed to let chaos ban inferno. ez for chaos
3 replies
#158
?tooEZforBIG
?tooEZforBIGWhy somehow?
Chaos perma is Vertigo, Triumph doesnt play Vertigo because its theirs too so Chaos doesnt need to ban it and they can ban Inferno
2 replies
#159
?|?
?stay_drinkwaterandstuff_my_guy
?|??stay_drinkwaterandstuff_my_guytriumph as the underdog should have let chaos ban it imo, this is a big riperoni
1 reply
#180
?tooEZforBIG
?tooEZforBIGTold you :)
#160
?|?
?Dosss
?|??Dosssez 4 ence
#161
?|?
?EzzCSGO
?|??EzzCSGOEz win for chaos
#162
?malvyn
device?|?
?malvynChaos first pick? Train first map ...
2 replies
#164
?|?
?stay_drinkwaterandstuff_my_guy
?|??stay_drinkwaterandstuff_my_guymirage 2nd, i think you're right
#209
?Angles
?AnglesYeah, when I saw this I layed 200 on chaos to win first half through to second. Made 120. Also 100 on chaos for -2.5 at 1.53 with another 200. So made 170........ All thanks to early information on train. Thanks brobi!
#163
?ikic
?ikic100% ez for Chaos... So at the end Triumph gonna win
#165
?|?
?gabrielmenezes
?|??gabrielmenezesez for junior
#166
?nvebev
?nvebev-train
-vertigo
for sho'
#169
?yourpapichulo
sexperience?|?
?yourpapichulowhy odds shifts that much? any ideas?
1 reply
#170
?Miki2K
misutaaa?|?
?Miki2Kmappicks
#171
?udyr_main
?udyr_mainI'll be betting on Chaos for Inferno (Triumph's map pick) for the max odds on every single map.
This is called the opponent's best map phonemeon. Just look at BIG vs MIBR rematch. In first match they played against each other, MIBR won Vertigo and got smashed on D2. In the rematch, MIBR smashed BIG on the map they got 16-2'd on and lost Vertigo.
In Chaos vs Triumph, Triumph looks strong on inferno, it's the only map they beat Chaos in head to head and they beat Liquid yesterday very convincingly. Normally you would think Triumph would win Inferno, right?
Thank you for the odds!
3 replies
#173
?|?
?alejasan
?|??alejasanxdxd
#174
?Miki2K
misutaaa?|?
?Miki2Ka lot of people on hltv dont understand the "opponent's best map phonemeon" and get mad they lose money on someones best map
#181
?|?
?firtlast
?|??firtlastno inferno 4 u
#172
?|?
?Olofmeister2MajorsS1mpleZero
?|??Olofmeister2MajorsS1mpleZerohope triumph wins, since chaos is leaving csgo so it aint matter for them
1 reply
#179
?Rheniel
?RhenielThey might change their mind depending on the result
#175
?d3ath_fury
NiKo?|?
?d3ath_furymap1 -2.5@1.63 chaos ez..
tnx me later
#176
?|?
?snicxx
?|??snicxxWho cars about this trash final ? Just make quick 2-0
2 replies
#195
?someone86
?someone86quick 2-0 then reverse sweep
1 reply
#237
?|?
?snicxx
?|??snicxxNo chance for nohand triumph can only play inferno
#177
?Rheniel
?Rheniel#VamosChaos!
#178
?nvebev
?nvebevmappicks xD
#182
?ropzZz
?ropzZzFuck u bet 1map triumph is train shit
#183
?ropzZz
?ropzZzFuckin xeppa lucky
#184
?|?
?urm@m
?|??urm@mLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
ROUND 4 TYPICAL NA CS
#185
?KoksSkirtumas
valde?|?
?KoksSkirtumasAfter Zywoo gameplay, this game looks fun :D
#186
?ropzZz
?ropzZzAhahahahah nice defuse bomb ahahahahahhahaha triumph bots
1 reply
#193
?|?
?urm@m
?|??urm@mahahahaha rip ur money ahahahahaha
#187
?Jebackurwyzesprout
innocent?|?
?JebackurwyzesproutChaos mo?e ssa? kutasa
#188
?Y0B4
?Y0B4autism 3v1 already NA cs at its finest
1 reply
#191
?|?
?firtlast
?|??firtlastclassic
#189
?GreyhoundCZ
cadiaN?|?
?GreyhoundCZboring shit, NA CS garbage tier
#190
?|?
?Flamengo3_Liverpool0
?|??Flamengo3_Liverpool0#GoChaosEC
#192
?ropzZz
?ropzZzGo deete is game triumph , 1v3 , 1v2
#194
?|?
?Desteriction
?|??DesterictionLiquid lost to this lmao
#196
?|?
?Dyones100
?|??Dyones100SO EZ FOR FURIA.XEPPAA
#197
?|?
?WhatOta
?|??WhatOtaMAN I LOVE THIS FUCKING TEAM!
#198
?|?
?userfriendly
?|??userfriendly clips.twitch.tv/BrightSpunkyJellyfishDog..
team work :D
#199
?I_LOVE_DE_VERTIGO
Vertigo?|?
?I_LOVE_DE_VERTIGOnice veto triumph looooooool 3-0 chaos
#200
?Dosia_1_major_S0mple_0_major
Dosia?|?
?Dosia_1_major_S0mple_0_majorWho vs who?
Why this final?
#201
?Y0B4
?Y0B4TRIUMPH AXAXAXAXAXAXAXAX
#202
?cromen)))
?cromen)))Triumph lost like 10x 4v2’s already
#203
?ropzZz
?ropzZz4v2 4v2 3v1 1v2 1v2 triumph nice play god
1 reply
#212
?|?
?urm@m
?|??urm@mHOW MUCH?????????? LOOOOOOOOOOL
#204
?|?
?Ari_only
?|??Ari_onlyCHAOSSSSSSSSS
#205
?|?
?JupiterACE
?|??JupiterACEthis is a massacre
#206
?97532971
Boombl4?|?
?97532971how many 4v2 and 5v3 and shit hahahahaha
#207
?|?
?versusworld
?|??versusworld4v2,5v3,4v2,3v1,3v1,2v1
HOOOOW
#208
?MadeInBulgaria
?MadeInBulgariaIs this even watchable?
2 replies
#211
?|?
?urm@m
?|??urm@myes, its being streamed on twitch, so its watchable.
1 reply
#216
?MadeInBulgaria
?MadeInBulgariavery poor quality CS... Triumph plays like if they were inspired by bots
#210
?regerngr
?regerngrfirst time ive seen nades beeing used in NA cs and the opponent is lost :) i guess on Mirage it will be 50/50 again but Chaos looking good for now
#213
?|?
?firtlast
?|??firtlastwhat, are triumph gonna 16-0 them on mirage now?
1 reply
#215
?regerngr
?regerngri think it will be close.. triumph beat liquid pretty easy
#214
?VetoPredicts
Just2EZ?|?
?VetoPredictsbet 500 on 1.019 ez profit 9.5$
1 reply
#228
?|?
?Jolkkoswag
?|??Jolkkoswagi mean thats free meal for tomorrow
#217
?|?
?urm@m
?|??urm@mLIQUID LOST TO THIS KEKW BABYRAGE
EZ FOR MY CHAOS BOIS
6 replies
#220
?regerngr
?regerngronly 1 map, look at navi game earlier
5 replies
#221
?|?
?urm@m
?|??urm@mdifference is that Vitality have the best player in the world and Triumph dont
4 replies
#222
?regerngr
?regerngrthey have junior
3 replies
#223
?|?
?urm@m
?|??urm@mstop trolling. That guy is traash compared to the other players in the server.
All chaos players are better than him
2 replies
#230
?regerngr
?regerngrwell if you watched vs Liquid, the Triumph players all had their moments and Liquid are more skilled than both teams. But they have some mental issue i dont understand and Stewie2k as igl. Think they could win easy just rushing a or b every round because they cant do anything correct when they have to make team decisions
#243
?I_Dont_even_PlayCS
Xeppaa?|?
?I_Dont_even_PlayCSnah dont disrespect junior bro, hes insane just had a bad map, but chaos is better team for sure
#218
?|?
?The Jagermeister :D
?|??The Jagermeister :DGame going as expected.
If eg and liquid didnt throw, it would have been a good final.
#219
?97532971
Boombl4?|?
?97532971EZ FOR FURIA XEPPAA
#224
?willykung
?willykungTriumph win mirage, yes??
6 replies
#225
?Unbearable
?Unbearableyeah
#233
?tsum0ki
BnTeT?|?
?tsum0kiYes!
#244
?X3nn4
?X3nn4Not so sure. Its looking more like 3-0 to me. No Inferno > No chance for Triumph
3 replies
#259
?goiL
?goiLTriumph take mirage for sure
2 replies
#267
?X3nn4
?X3nn4Nah dude
1 reply
#296
?goiL
?goiLyes dude ok?
#226
?X3nn4
?X3nn4I dont get why Triumph didnt ban Train.
5 replies
#231
?|?
?userfriendly
?|??userfriendlysame, its not like chaos would have picked vertigo i think lmao
1 reply
#235
?X3nn4
?X3nn4Exactly. Pointless ban
#239
?regerngr
?regerngrTriumph beat TeamOne on Train just like this.
Why does TeamOne even play in NA? They get visa to play online cs and throw matches for money? Have never seen T1 on a lan tournement.
2 replies
#245
?|?
?firtlast
?|??firtlastt1 got ultra tilted after they lost inferno after a 11-4 lead
#246
?X3nn4
?X3nn4And...? Chaos are infinitely better than TeamOne. Why not take the chance and have the decider be a map that neither team play. I think that would favour the puggy underdog team.
#227
?k1otaN
acoR?|?
?k1otaNLiquid lost to this....
#232
?regerngr
?regerngrLiquid should just bench stewie2k and add Krystal and they will be better.
#234
?s1mpledog
?s1mpledogWatching these 2 almost make me blind. Smfc vs smfc
#236
?hltvmen
?hltvmenthis could have been eg vs liquid. Instead we get two MDL teams.
#238
?|?
?userfriendly
?|??userfriendlyez to predict whole match tho
triumph wins mirage
chaos wins overpass
triumph wins nuke
chaos wins dust
3-2 chaos
100% 5 maps will be played
would have been 3-2 triumph if triumph would have banned train (then chaos would have banned vertigo) and inferno would be played
4 replies
#240
?yeyey5555
?yeyey5555chaos had first ban moron
#241
?|?
?zywoo_top1_2020
?|??zywoo_top1_2020lmao its 3-0 chaos what are you talking about
2 replies
#248
?Dosia_1_major_S0mple_0_major
Dosia?|?
?Dosia_1_major_S0mple_0_majorzylul top 99 lmao
1 reply
#252
?|?
?zywoo_top1_2020
?|??zywoo_top1_2020? cringe
#247
?|?
?bliNdfOld
?|??bliNdfOldOFC 5 MAPS INCOMING
#251
?regerngr
?regerngrTriumph crushing Chaos
#253
?Deathfangs1872
?Deathfangs1872Here comes the throw from chaos lezgoo NA cs
#254
?VetoPredicts
Just2EZ?|?
?VetoPredictsvery interesting final 16-0 0-16
#255
?regerngr
?regerngrNA cs is a mess.. EG and Liquid even loose to this
#256
?QuentinQuarantino
?QuentinQuarantino6:0 - 6:9
7 replies
#258
?regerngr
?regerngryou dont watch the game.. triumph playing good will probably win
6 replies
#261
?|?
?kksk
?|??kkskPlaying good?
1 reply
#263
?regerngr
?regerngryes, they are atleast using nades and have 7 t rounds... i am not sure if chaos can play t-side
#265
?X3nn4
?X3nn4Look what happened last 2 times these teams played Mirage.
3 replies
#268
?regerngr
?regerngrchaos won the match on ct-side. 10-5 and now Triumph are in the lead and looking good in the rounds... i think Triumph will win Mirage.
2 replies
#275
?X3nn4
?X3nn4Triumph are generally better on T-side
1 reply
#277
?regerngr
?regerngrDosent matter its a ct sided map and now they have the chance to close it out on the better side. Last time they dident have money to play... now they will win. they beat liquid pretty easy so why dont you believe they will beat chaos ?
#257
?Local_janitor
?Local_janitorNA players can’t throw the easiest van molly from b apps xddddd
#260
?|?
?xmcxx
?|??xmcxxlets go chaos egirls club
#262
?|?
?HeavySm0ker
?|??HeavySm0ker6-1 to lose
LMAO
#264
?|?
?San4izeees
?|??San4izeeesLeaf, what happened?
#266
?nvebev
?nvebevleaf underperfoming = gg
#269
?nvebev
?nvebevshakezullah > leaf
lmfao
#270
?regerngr
?regerngrcome on Triumph i believe in you
#271
?Gr1ndhval
?Gr1ndhvalHow do you have so bad mapcontroll that people sneak up and kill your awper from behind...
1 reply
#274
?regerngr
?regerngrChaos have no control because Triumph is better on Mirage.
Triumph can throw nades even thats not normal in NA cs
#272
?Bryan95
?Bryan95Nice 3v2 + bomb loss chaos
#273
?nvebev
?nvebevrip chaos
xD
when i bet on them they play like shit
classic
1 reply
#278
?regerngr
?regerngrits Triumph`s mapchoice.. on overpass which is next map chaos looked good vs EG.
#276
?|?
?bliNdfOld
?|??bliNdfOldOF COURSE LOSE TO SHAKEZULLAH
1 reply
#280
?|?
?bliNdfOld
?|??bliNdfOldand ryann
#279
?EnkeltLir
?EnkeltLir3 v 2 pistol to top it off. Jesus christ.
#281
?nvebev
?nvebevfucking 16 8 xDDDD
wp chaos
#282
?|?
?bliNdfOld
?|??bliNdfOldNICE ESIC FUCK YOU
1 reply
#284
?regerngr
?regerngrrelax probably be the same on Overpass.. NA bots only knows to play couple of maps
#283
?Dosia_1_major_S0mple_0_major
Dosia?|?
?Dosia_1_major_S0mple_0_majorThanks for 17 odds on 3-1 triumph
Ez now 3 map in row
#285
?X3nn4
?X3nn4How is ryann suddenly a monster fragger? o_0
2 replies
#287
?thanksmen
autist?|?
?thanksmenwhy not if the opponent isnt playing to win the map
1 reply
#303
?X3nn4
?X3nn4Uh, they are....
#286
?regerngr
?regerngril take odds on Chaos now for a comeback let see if they can win a couple of t-side rounds.
5.5 for map2
#288
?|?
?Teukkasd
?|??TeukkasdOp under 26.5 rounds ez?
3 replies
#289
?i_spread_love
acoR?|?
?i_spread_loveNo why?
2 replies
#290
?|?
?Teukkasd
?|??Teukkasdchaos insanely good on that map. should be ez money
1 reply
#292
?Dosia_1_major_S0mple_0_major
Dosia?|?
?Dosia_1_major_S0mple_0_major3-1 triumph
#291
?Dosia_1_major_S0mple_0_major
Dosia?|?
?Dosia_1_major_S0mple_0_majorChaos trash can play only on train
1 reply
#297
?|?
?JupiterACE
?|??JupiterACEYou've clearly never seen Chaos play
#293
?nvebev
?nvebev16 11 classic na dogs
#294
?|?
?snicxx
?|??snicxxhow TF this game gets 2 ** ? it's tier 4 esea game
1 reply
#305
?X3nn4
?X3nn4Its IEM NA grand final :)
#295
?|?
?somecunt
?|??somecuntRyann top fragging shakezullah second top fragging xD
1 reply
#299
?nvebev
?nvebevhappens when i bet on chaos shitheads
#298
?Emiklen
?EmiklenUnder bettors malding
#300
?regerngr
?regerngrNA cs is so funny... look how Chaos played b there.. they cant throw nades on Mirage. On Train they look good and dominant and Triumph look lost.
Overpass is a good map for Chaos do we see another easy map for Chaos ?
#301
?Limpus
?Limpusshakezullah looks like budget GuardiaN
#302
?Predic123
?Predic123Choke ez recovery from botvi
#304
?regerngr
?regerngri still cant understand how EG and Liquid lost to these 2 teams ? Feels like i am dreaming
1 reply
#313
?|?
?Joco413
?|??Joco413NA CS is shit.
#306
?NorticBR
?NorticBRChaos -3.5 map 3 leggo
#307
?Predic123
?Predic123Thanks triump u recovery my lose on botvi ez map 2 now u can lose bo5 i dont xare bye
4 replies
#309
?CryIsCheap
?CryIsCheapNo one cares about you either stfu already retard
2 replies
#310
?julidiaN
juliano?|?
?julidiaN+1
1 reply
#314
?|?
?xxtimxx
?|??xxtimxx+1
no one cares about ur shitty predictions ruski balalaika
#376
?|?
?AVANGAR_IS_BIGGEST_FLUKE
?|??AVANGAR_IS_BIGGEST_FLUKERip 200 rubles on navi hahahahahaahahahaaha 3 0 ahhahahahahahahhahahahah
#308
?suppon
?supponleaf to toggle and to win 3-1
#311
?NaegeN
?NaegeNI mean overpass and nuke should both be pretty easy for Chaos
1 reply
#312
?|?
?SadUnicorn
?|??SadUnicorn+1
#315
?|?
?JupiterACE
?|??JupiterACEso many ads mean the viewer count drops so low... yawn, boring
2 replies
#316
?Culimon
suicide?|?
?CulimonWatch on YT instead, better quality & less and briefer ads
1 reply
#318
?|?
?JupiterACE
?|??JupiterACEStill a 10+ minute gap between games where nothing happens, in a BO5 played all the way that can be 40+ minutes of just sitting there wanking time away basically. YT sucks because it has delay so twitter is all spoilers
#317
?|?
?bliNdfOld
?|??bliNdfOldrip 3-0 for chaos
fixing strikes again
1 reply
#320
?regerngr
?regerngrna scene is like that.. Triumph cant throw nades on Train and Overpass so they loose and look like shit on the maps. But they will win on Inferno and Mirage, maybe Dust2 and Nuke also they have a chance
#319
?Jebackurwyzesprout
innocent?|?
?Jebackurwyzesproutdebile JEBANE DEBILE!
#321
?nvebev
?nvebevdog leaf went online xDDDDDDDD
right after my bet on map2
#322
?SmoothLife
?SmoothLifeBoring NA Cs
#323
?|?
?DG84
?|??DG84junior leaving team so xD
#324
?ZoomerChad
?ZoomerChadGOD MARKE
#325
?nvebev
?nvebev7 0 -> 7 8
classic
6 replies
#327
?Unlucky_bettor
?Unlucky_bettornt
5 replies
#328
?nvebev
?nvebevokay 7 0 -> 8 7
4 replies
#331
?Unlucky_bettor
?Unlucky_bettornt
3 replies
#333
?nvebev
?nvebev10 5 w/e
2 replies
#335
?SmoothLife
?SmoothLifeTriumph bettor ahahaha Rip bro
1 reply
#336
?nvebev
?nvebevwrong
#326
?SmoothLife
?SmoothLifeThis defence is so dogshit ahahaha
#329
?X3nn4
?X3nn4Ok, Ryann is a bot after all. 6 kills on Train and 2 kills so far on ovp
#330
?|?
?bliNdfOld
?|??bliNdfOldFOR REAL?\
THROW MIRAGE TO RUIN MY 650$ on @3.78
1 reply
#344
?|?
?zywoo_top1_2020
?|??zywoo_top1_2020proofor fake
#332
?ZoomerChad
?ZoomerChadMarkE is smurfing in the major
#334
?|?
?DDoubleE
?|??DDoubleECool seeing Furias new players play against each other.
9 replies
#337
?Unlucky_bettor
?Unlucky_bettorjunior and?
8 replies
#338
?|?
?stay_drinkwaterandstuff_my_guy
?|??stay_drinkwaterandstuff_my_guyxeppppppppppppppppppp
a
#339
?|?
?DDoubleE
?|??DDoubleEJunior and Xeppaa
6 replies
#340
?Unlucky_bettor
?Unlucky_bettorrip furia then
#354
?|?
?blameF_biggest_fan
?|??blameF_biggest_fanProof about xeppaa?
4 replies
#355
?|?
?DDoubleE
?|??DDoubleE twitter.com/Rafinhafps_/status/133060948..
Not confirmed yet, but, it looks like -Hen1 -VINI will happen.
3 replies
#358
?|?
?blameF_biggest_fan
?|??blameF_biggest_fanI hope they'll sign him eventually, he deserves it
#359
?|?
?Esiik
?|??EsiikNegotiatiom went down, yeas so that means xeppa will stay in chaos, so no new furia players fighting, only Junior coming to furia
1 reply
#362
?|?
?DDoubleE
?|??DDoubleE"Negotiatiom went down"
For now, they could look at other players as well.
But, i still think VINI could be removed for another NA player.
And thing is, Hen1 cant speak English if i am not mistaken.
#341
?Gefilte
?GefiltepIDORASI TUPORILIE TRIUMph
#342
?Gefilte
?GefilteMRAZI EBANIE NADEYUS VI ZDOHNITE OT SPIDA PIDORI
3 replies
#347
?|?
?blameF_biggest_fan
?|??blameF_biggest_fanAhahahahhahahahhahahahah rip 10 monet csgo positive
1 reply
#349
?Gefilte
?Gefilteno no no bet
#368
?|?
?SighZy
?|??SighZyThis is an international site, please write your comment in English. Comments in another language will be deleted.
#343
?|?
?Theodoooore
?|??TheodooooreIt's not even a meme, Valorant absolutely murdered the NA scene. Anyone but the top 2 teams are essentially nonamers.
It'll give them a change to prove themselves, but for the time being there's a huge talent vacuum to fill.
2 replies
#351
?|?
?blameF_biggest_fan
?|??blameF_biggest_fanNonamers? These players have been known for years. NA MDL and such
#364
?|?
?JupiterACE
?|??JupiterACEnonamers? these guys have been playing NA events for a long time now
#345
?regerngr
?regerngrwho win nuke ??
4 replies
#346
?nvebev
?nvebevclownfiesta incoming
1 reply
#348
?regerngr
?regerngri agree, seen both teams on nuke and chaos looked little better but both can play this map atleast.
weird teams to have in a final... they can only play a couple of maps good
#361
?|?
?SKS_1337
?|??SKS_1337ofc cheaters Chaos will win this 3-1,
You can see with cheat they dont let enemy win even 6 rounds. without cheat they lose 16-11.
No wonder NA CS ded
1 reply
#381
?zatipopo88
ZywOo?|?
?zatipopo88yep Leaf timing godlike
#350
?|?
?yungz0r
?|??yungz0rI would like to bet on triumph on nuke but this is so scary they were so shit on overpass
4 replies
#353
?|?
?blameF_biggest_fan
?|??blameF_biggest_fanWell chaos should take their deserved global challenge spot. They can only lose to themselves on nuke
#356
?hifi2098
?hifi2098I mean on tain triumph was shitty too.. I think thats could be Triumphs map (maybe 60/40 for Chaos). And then Dust II is a 50/50 match
2 replies
#365
?regerngr
?regerngri think the same.. if it was a eu game i would say 75/25 for chaos but in na teams are so weak on some maps that it looks so bad.
1 reply
#370
?hifi2098
?hifi2098ok nvm what a bad start, i dont think they can comeback now - what a bad final
#352
?Gefilte
?Gefilteshas oleni svoi nuke budut brat
2 replies
#360
?nvebev
?nvebev+1
na script
#367
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?SighZy
?|??SighZyThis is an international site, please write your comment in English. Comments in another language will be deleted.
#357
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?mickdo
?|??mickdoCHAOS MARKE SUPERSTAR
#363
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?matzyr
?|??matzyrwtf is this shit, valorant absolutely slaughtered na scene, it feels like im watching a chinese match
1 reply
#373
?Miki2K
misutaaa?|?
?Miki2K+1
#366
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?JupiterACE
?|??JupiterACEanother 15 minutes of stock music and footage.... yawn, 15k viewers major final LUL i'm going to bed
#369
?nvebev
?nvebev5 0 -> 5 10 -> 10 10 -> 15 15
#371
?nvebev
?nvebevforce'd xDDD
#372
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?Teukkasd
?|??Teukkasdgo over 25.5 ty
#374
?udyr_main
?udyr_mainMan so ez for CHAOS, people thought Triumph had a chance because of the fluke victory vs Liquid
It was Liquid playing bad dummies, not Triumph showing up!
Let's go XEPPA!
#375
?hltvmen
?hltvmenliquid should be ashamed for losing to this. Triumph wouldn't even be tier 3 in eu.
2 replies
#377
?Thund4h
Aleksib?|?
?Thund4h+1 lul
idk how did they win yesterday.
1 reply
#384
?regerngr
?regerngrme neither.. i hope no hope for that liquid lineup anymore... atleast EG have a igl and maybe can compete in something
#378
?nvebev
?nvebev3 12 -> 12 12
classic
4 replies
#382
?udyr_main
?udyr_mainI'm sorry delusional bettor, this match will not go over. Triumph 5=< rounds tops.
3 replies
#383
?nvebev
?nvebev8 12 already
2 replies
#386
?udyr_main
?udyr_maingo sleep dude because this can only happen in a Triumph bettor's dreams
1 reply
#387
?nvebev
?nvebevfeel sorry for u
#379
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?EzLIQUID2ZERO
?|??EzLIQUID2ZERORegretting the $1000 I put on triump +7.5 at 2.40 odds..
1 reply
#388
?regerngr
?regerngrlooking good now
#380
?Spinx_god
?Spinx_godNa scene big joke haha
#385
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?EzLIQUID2ZERO
?|??EzLIQUID2ZEROPlease win my +7.5 triumph at $2.40
#389
?nvebev
?nvebev3 12 to 12 12
lmfao
what a joke
