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    The "original" OG
    Yall remember when the reports about OG started, right? I actually completely forgot about this, but Jamppi was supposed to be the awper. Goddamn i wish he wouldn't have cheated :/ I would have loved to see that lineup (Nothing against mantuu ofc)
    2020-11-26 23:06
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    mantuu > jamppi
    2020-11-26 23:07
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    2020-11-26 23:08
    I agree, but i still would have wanted to see that
    2020-11-26 23:10
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    Yeah same, but im glad mantuu got a chance cuz he is insane
    2020-11-27 20:17
    expected from fan of female cs
    2020-11-27 22:25
    2020-11-26 23:11
    in what world kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
    2020-11-26 23:32
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    +1 :D:D:D:DD
    2020-11-27 20:27
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    that even proves that mantuu is very consistent and can perform well all the time
    2020-11-27 20:46
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    2020-11-27 20:48
    +1, shows how good mantuu is
    2020-11-27 22:34
    Mantuu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jamppi
    2020-11-26 23:44
    2020-11-27 20:27
    I agree. But I also have to say that I don't think Jamppi is as bad as he looks like right now in ence. He would be a lot better in OG with the proper role he's supposed to play and with a good IGL.
    2020-11-27 20:45
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    yeah thats kinda true
    2020-11-27 20:57
    +1 ENCE destroyed sergej and his career
    2020-11-28 21:46
    2020-11-27 21:34
    mantuu turned out to be a better pickup, Jamppi overrated
    2020-11-26 23:08
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    6/8 Mantuu turned out to be a better pickup yes, but i think Jamppi deserves (atleast most) of the "hype"
    2020-11-26 23:11
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    he doesnt, very overrated player
    2020-11-26 23:13
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    well everyone has opinions i guess
    2020-11-26 23:14
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    correct, but mine is objective, and yours is subjective
    2020-11-26 23:18
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    u de_stroyed him bro
    2020-11-26 23:46
    and heavily biased
    2020-11-26 23:51
    yea objectively irrelevant as one might say ;)
    2020-11-27 21:01
    2020-11-27 22:25
    OG #6 ENCE #30 mantuu 1.14 rating 2020 jamppi 1.01 rating 2020 with less maps mantuu > jamppi ez
    2020-11-27 20:29
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    He said that mantuu is better but jamppi is not as bad as he seems in ence
    2020-11-27 20:48
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    mantuu is better, just look at the stats
    2020-11-27 20:49
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    2020-11-27 20:51
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    mantuu is better, jamppi is bad why u say he better XD
    2020-11-27 21:35
    Chill out. Mantuu is better than Jampii tho. JK This guys are baiting you IMO, because atleast i understand what you mean XD.
    2020-11-27 21:36
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    ty bro RIP Diego
    2020-11-27 22:33
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    I dont rlly care about that drogadict, my country is so hypocretical that forgets how the actual gov have destroyed this nation so far because this same gov actually made a funeral for him. Argentina is cursed at this point, for this stupid low IQ people Futbol>>>>>>>>>Life/Nation. But thx XD
    2020-11-28 03:28
    jamppii 2nd awp and no igl to position him correctly, mantuu has became so good bcs aleksi understands his impact and knows to position him to positions where he can get multikills
    2020-11-28 16:22
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    I am finnish and Jamppi is good because hes finnish, also mantuu is only good because Aleksib is IGL and he is also finnish. finnish.
    2020-11-28 16:26
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    2020-11-29 20:04
    Well does he have any stats to support the hype?
    2020-11-26 23:44
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    dropping 30+ frags against t99999999999999999 finnish teams lol
    2020-11-26 23:53
    mantuu > jumpo
    2020-11-26 23:08
    poizon was also supposed to replace Jamppi, but Complexity has stolen him, so they went for mantuu.
    2020-11-26 23:09
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    2020-11-26 23:10
    Tbh it turned out better
    2020-11-26 23:24
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    but imagine col with mantuu now.
    2020-11-26 23:31
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    poizon better
    2020-11-26 23:47
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    ok so theyre basically the same
    2020-11-27 20:31
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    but mantuu>poizon
    2020-11-27 20:32
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    poizon more awp kills per round tho
    2020-11-27 20:38
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    thats means, that mantuu is good with rifle too
    2020-11-27 20:38
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    ok but we are talking about awpers
    2020-11-27 20:39
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    he is better with awp too
    2020-11-27 20:40
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    not what the stats say :D
    2020-11-27 20:41
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    more impact, more rating thats enough to say, that mantuu>poizon
    2020-11-27 20:41
    What stats state that poizon is better with AWP? AWP kills per round just tells us that poizon uses AWP more than Mantuu (poizon is relatively bad with rifles). Mantuu is way more versatile - I'd pick him to my team over poizon 100/100 times.
    2020-11-28 03:42
    Complexity played in a lot of T2 tourneys
    2020-11-27 20:43
    Jamppi as a rifler, perhaps, but instead of mantuu... doubt
    2020-11-26 23:11
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    Uhm, no. Mantuu is as good with rifles as with the AWP, if not even better. Mantuu is better player on every aspect when comparing to jamppi.
    2020-11-26 23:46
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    Yes, but jamppi is a lot better than he is playing in ence rn, He is not playing his main role and i dont think he is good enough to play on this high level without good igl:ing which ence doesnt have.
    2020-11-27 20:51
    Good. OG is an honourable name, no need for cheaters.
    2020-11-26 23:26
    You do know Valve has themselves admitted he didnt cheat?
    2020-11-26 23:27
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    thats why they dont unban him...
    2020-11-28 09:24
    tea eye winners pog
    2020-11-26 23:31
    Jamppi permaban when?
    2020-11-26 23:32
    United Arab Emirates?HZT8
    mantuu --->jambo
    2020-11-26 23:33
    mantuu is good but I wished for woxic next to ISSAA
    2020-11-26 23:35
    well Mantu better than Jampi anyway , glad it didnt happen. jampi sadly is being held back in Ence with Allu awping there.
    2020-11-26 23:39
    mantuu proved to be much better than Jamppi Also with Jamppi they would have played the major qualifier events with a standin
    2020-11-26 23:50
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    But thats exactly why they didnt pick up jamppi. His ban was unknown until this OG case. Thats why they backed off when they learned that jamppi had the vac account.
    2020-11-27 20:50
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    Kinda a bad look that Jampi is hiding his dark cheating past...
    2020-11-28 09:26
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    I dont think he even knew himself that he would get banned for an old meaningless account. Must've been a slap in the face. The ban is pretty retarded anyways.
    2020-11-28 10:24
    mantuu jampii both good players, the real disappointment was when they added NBK, when they couldve done so much better
    2020-11-26 23:52
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    NBK has struggled and isn't the greatest but he hasn't really held the team back tbf It's just general consistency that fucks up OG
    2020-11-27 01:41
    Every team need a guy who can accept he need to be unselfish inside the game and at that time there's not really any option imo, bet his buyout is a cheap one too
    2020-11-27 22:20
    I think jamppi would've been star awper under IGL like aleksib. Cant even imagine how frustrated jamppi was when he couldnt join OG because of his ban. He took long break after that. Now his rating has been dropping so much and he cant even be main awper like he should be.
    2020-11-27 00:11
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    Yeah theres absolutely no point keeping him in ence if he cant even be the main awper. I dont even know why the fuck they doing it because they could get better players to fill that role and ones that are not banned. Jamppi could be the starplayer in ence but they just choose allu instead. Ngl allu has been playing good but switching up the roles would benefit them as a team IMO.
    2020-11-27 20:55
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    +1 but for jamppi it was nice that ence decided to pick him up, no other team would pick jamppi because his vac ban. I hope jamppi gets unbanned since valve has admitted that jamppi didnt cheat but whole thing is still in progress.
    2020-11-27 21:13
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    He could be main awper in some worse team that has no chance for major anyway. But then again they dont pay as well. And maybe ence can provide some help with the ban case if needed.
    2020-11-27 21:19
    absolute pogger memes, it was csgoLounge polish team right?
    2020-11-27 01:52
    jamppi 0.93 rating for the past 3 months. I don't know why people think he is good.
    2020-11-27 01:54
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    He's forced to play with rifles (and mostly entrying on t-side) instead of awping, of course his stats aren't going to be as good as if he was the main awper Also mantuu has one of the worlds best IGL's micromanaging him and he's playing in a real system Jamppi is being led by a player who was never meant to be an IGL
    2020-11-27 20:48
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    honestly if what aerial said was correct -"with aleksib we just play default" then aleksib default strats were already world class... xD just look at at ence now.
    2020-11-28 20:51
    Ence effect
    2020-11-27 20:48
    He is, in right conditions. In ence he's playing absolutely wrong roles in a shit team. He'd be way better in OG but maybe not mantuu level.
    2020-11-27 20:57
    OG just has to let go of NBK and bring a top tier rifler for when Valde doesnt show up. aleksi is already the IGL lol
    2020-11-27 20:26
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    NBK to coach and ropz to OG would be perfect
    2020-11-27 20:50
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    +1 OG really should try to get ropz.
    2020-11-27 20:59
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    Yes very nice, Estonian Ropz goes to OG to play under Aleksi "Aleksib" Estonian But doubt Mouz will let him go, i am positive other teams already tried to poach him out.
    2020-11-27 22:31
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    Well his contract is ending at some point and I think pretty much every international team is interested in him. So I dont really see ropz renewing his contract with mouz since I think other teams have more to offer him. Dunno tho how long contract he signed. Could be expiring march 2021 maybe? But we've seen pretty big transfers already so who knows, maybe someone buys him out.
    2020-11-27 23:23
    ropz is a lurker and NBK entry. nt tho ropz
    2020-11-28 03:58
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    Did I say anything about -nbk? -valde or -issaa
    2020-11-28 09:18
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    2020-11-28 14:53
    why do you people think NBK the SUPPORT is gonna get replaced? unless you get xyp9x there is no better support almost like what are you smoking? if they need a better rifler its -issaa or -valde if they need a better igl -aleksib better awper -mantuu better support -nbk
    2020-11-28 03:55
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    even for a support he is playing dog shit. ISSA can take his positions and he would be way better
    2020-11-28 16:20
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    Jesus you are not very smart are you? what does OG not have right now? firepower? than you need to remove valde, issaa, mantuu
    2020-11-28 20:45
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    we need to remove aleksib if we want firepower
    2020-11-28 20:48
    yeah, like players can't change role. that never happenned on cs history. is not like on some teams they even change roles depending on map. is totally impossible that a player like ISSA can play on support role. you don't understand how a cs team work and this conversation is a waste of time, have a good day
    2020-11-28 21:32
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    you dont understand how team roles works A) Issaa doesnt want to play support B) if you put issaa as a support he could play worse than nbk. Maybe use your brain for once its like putting a striker as a goalkeeper in football yes that player is a better overall player but as a goalkeeper the old one is probably better
    2020-11-28 21:42
    Optic Gaming?
    2020-11-27 20:44
    Mantuu was such an amazing pick up, OGs best player right now. Thank god they didnt pick up jamppi
    2020-11-27 20:50
    OG right now just need consistent riffler.
    2020-11-27 21:02
    Apparently they also were looking to pick up ZOREE but NBK thought he was cheating because his stats went up at such an old age :D
    2020-11-27 21:02
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    source: trust me mens))
    2020-11-28 03:57
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    zehn said it in a podcast or on his stream im 99% sure
    2020-11-28 20:56
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    Oooo drama
    2020-11-28 22:09
    Wait what :DDD
    2020-11-28 22:11
    Who jamppi xd
    2020-11-27 21:33
    2020-11-27 23:24
    Only reason Jamppi is banned is because he had some salty friend/teammate who leaked it
    2020-11-28 03:48
    courts said he didnt cheat tho, or at least valve couldnt prove it based on times and dates of account transfer
    2020-11-28 03:56
    Poizon was one pick too but signed to col..
    2020-11-28 15:19
    People hating on Yumpy's stats don't realize that he's been playing entry in ENCE instead of AWP which he would prefer.
    2020-11-28 16:25
    Looking back now it was probably good for them that mantuu ended up being the awper. Mantuu is sick.
    2020-11-28 22:10
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