Where is gla1ve he coomed on the scene, and kicked butt!
2020-11-25 03:15
Finally a really good list! Really nice to see people actually being realistic with these lists for once :)
2020-11-25 03:16
1-cadian
2-blamef
3-nexa
4-apex
5-tabsen imo
2020-11-25 03:26
dont forget that niko won a blast qualifier
2020-11-25 03:27
Damn for once I actually totally agree with a ranking list on HLTV, nice mens, this is very accurate imo
2020-11-25 03:27
very bad list, where is NiKo and kNg
2020-11-25 03:27
i like it, +1
tho hunden should be slashed alongside cadian. cadian is only a "good" igl with hunden's antistrats and it's clear as day that heroic's insane win at cologne where they looked like early 2018 astralis was because hunden was calling online.
2020-11-25 05:30
Apex first is a joke. Everything else is ok
2020-11-25 05:33
+1 apex underrated. Vitality is very dynamic with good aggressive ct side. Not sure about tabsen tho as BIG seem to play as a whole unit and boombl4 is yet to prove himself to be in top 10. You are focusing too much on the team's performance rather than on individual leading skills otherwise good list
2020-11-25 06:01
I disagree with boombl4 :/
2020-11-25 06:06
One of the few lists on HLTV which are accurate.
2020-11-25 06:08
This list should be pinned top on hltv threads.Hope alekaib soon become no.1
2020-11-25 06:12
Great and accurate list imo
2020-11-25 06:35
I would put boombl4 below nexa, art, and karrigan because he got carried by s1mple and electronic popping off as well as perfecto being a good support. Navi's IGLing has been absolute dogshit all year, the only reason they won anything is because of fragging power. If navi had any other russian-speaking igl except for jame (because his role would conflict with s1mple), they would be either first or a close second to vitality during the online era.
2020-11-25 06:43
lol imagine not putting nafany here
2020-11-25 06:47
great list
im glad to see boombla and im glad not to see zeus
2020-11-25 06:49
I think arT could place higher than boombl4 in some cases depending on what criteria you use to rank everyone. He might not have as many overall achievements, but every top NA team has been pretty shit online due to them being so accustomed to LAN, and the T2 and T3 teams that mainly play online normally look overly strong against them. If we still somehow had LANs going on, even if regional then arT probably would've cracked the top 5. Also stans calling feels really up and down, but the only other IGLs I feasibly see passing him would be Hampus for basically reviving NiP, even if they're a lower end T1 bordering T2 team at times, or possibly sdy for bringing Spirit into some really nice positions and making them feel like a stronger team than ever. There aren't really many standout IGLs this year. Apex, cadiaN, and tabsen are the only IGLs I feel have had an amazing year, and Nexa started it off great but G2 definitely cooled down when we hit online.
2020-11-25 06:51
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2020-11-25 07:09
I agree with a lot of your picks except I feel like arT and Boombl4 can swap. No Stan.
2020-11-25 07:13
It's not bad list, but it's not as great as other said either.
Firstly judging 'best IGLs' is very hard and almost impossible unless you have their teamspeak and internal dynamics of each team. I mean could you really say that Godsent will perform better if apex was their IGL or Faze will perform worse if krystal was their IGL? Hard to say.
We could only judge their performance from team achievement. Even then I disagree with apex being best IGL. Yes he manages to unlock RPK and shox but overall his Vitality isn't more consistent or better compared to Alex's. In fact I remember one caster basically call them a choker and they need 1 year to finally won something. Same with Boombl4. He can't surpass Zeus despite his team having better firepower.
The better way to judge IGL is by watching how their teams perform with different kind of rosters. But outside of aleksib and alex I don't remember any other IGL perform well with different teams/rosters in last 2 years. cadian for example failed at North because his loose style doesn't fit with the rosters who prefer a more structured/rigid approach.
2020-11-25 07:20
Couldn't have made the point about apEX more soundly than you have. Been waiting months for people to realize this and now it seems to be gaining momentum as a consensus. Good luck to OG; love that team.
2020-11-25 07:19
dude respect aleksi more. He is better than tabsen and blame for sure
2020-11-25 07:25
cadian has been crazy good this year i don't know how he does it but he keeps carrying as an igl. Heroic has some impressive new talents and he uses them really well. Respect to the man.
2020-11-25 09:15
KnGv after mibr wins Flashpoint
2020-11-25 09:21
Where is steel? He made chaos a contender team
2020-11-25 09:29
OG ez fix = If karrigan and ropz goes to FaZe, then OG could go: -NBK +frozen -ISSAA +Bymas
2020-11-25 09:33
Apart from blame in front of tabsen (bc big hard onliners that choke to bad teams here and there) list is perfect.
2020-11-25 09:34
Boombl4 should be way lower on the list, as tactics and IGLing capabilities is the smallest contributor to Na'Vi winning that event. I'd have an honorable mention for Vanity / Steel, as they brought up a team of no-namers to a top20 team. Jame another honorable mention due to recent form.
2020-11-25 09:34
I mean blameF shouldnt be that higher imo. I know his performance is probably top 3, but other than farming 9to5 tourney, i dont see coL win any tier 1 tourney, right? is there even a grand final that CoL got on tier 1 tourney? I only remember them getting on semifinals but lose one of them to heroic.. Nexa should be higher.
2020-11-25 09:42
maybe OG didnt pick up a thophy but they won blast fall series 2020 along side g2 and vitality
2020-11-25 09:45
Very good list my friend +1
2020-11-25 09:56
apex XD
he is bad actually
2020-11-25 22:54
apex calls - zywoo go kill
top3 IGL for sure.
2020-11-25 23:39
Honestly I think it's a really good list, you took all the details into the consideration. GJ!
2020-11-26 00:16
I really don't like boombl4 but it's so easy to say it's not atleast in top 10,he definetely can be ,it's just that I feel he is so scared of s1mple and saying what to do to him
Otherwise great list just blameF over tabsen for me,they both rely heavily on anti strat but blameF is better individually and aleksib = magisk
2020-11-26 00:23
Can u imagine how ridicolous is 2020?
Apex,tabsen,cadian and magisk mentioned as best igls,that would sounds like 0/8 bait in 2019
2020-11-26 00:22
Having Gla1ve. the best ever IGL in the game at 5 is hard.. and I would move him further up if it where my list.
However I get it from the point he havent played all season, and Astralis havent played much overall. and they have been changing around a lot making everything harder, even though they handled their changes way better than any other team still being able to win even though they shuffle. that speak to a good IGL to.
I do think the list lose credit when not having a IGL there have been among the best IGL for many years, never dropping under top 5 IGL in karrigan.. however many just see him from the toxic meme side that CS fandom sadly create.. however he has been really strong like always stepping up massively despite big issues.
Without a doubt done better than arT/stanislaw and boombl4..
Again just lead me to believe that you learn to the "meme" believe of him however silly it is.
Overall a fair list though.
2020-11-26 00:25